Luca Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 J'ai un autre fournisseur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 le bon vieux tribulus j'en est pris en dose industriel, le temps d'action optimal est de 1 mois, il augmente la spermatogenèse, pour le sport = 0, aucun intérêt, par contre pour la libido, c'est infernale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem_For_Kelly Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Si vous avez vraiment des soucis de libido, essayez Athomik libido !Pareil que pour le zma, je n'ai pas d'action dans l'entreprise qui fabrique ce produit. Je ne suis pas un vendeur qui vient promouvoir son truc.Voici sa composition :Ingrédients par gélule :Maca ( 150 mg ), Tribulus terrestris ( 150 mg ), Ginseng ( 50 mg ), Damiana ( 25 mg ), Sarriette ( 25 mg ), sulfate de zinc (3,75 mg), sélénium (6,25 mg), vitamine E (5 mg), vitamine B2 (0,4 mg), vitamine B1 (0,35 mg) stéarate de magnésium 20 mgConseil d'utilisation :6 gélules par jour avec un grand verre d'eau divisé en 3 prises avant chaque repas, dans le cadre d'une alimentation équilibrée.Avant de poursuivre, j'attends de savoir si ça intéresse quelqu'un avant de donner plus de détails. Tout ce que je peux dire, c'est que j'en ai consommé et que ça a bien marché. Pour le reste, si vous êtes trop sceptiques et que vous ne voulez plus en entendre parler, je fermerai ma gueule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEX Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Ben non au contraire c'est pas mal du tout ton truc, je prends note Merci l'ami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem_For_Kelly Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Il n'y a pas de quoi ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLLK Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 La maca, considéré comme le viagra naturel. Ça à l'air pas mal ton truc. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien-methyl Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wow top le prix du Z man Pour la libido j'avais remarqué que le goji c'était pas mal.http://www.goji-fran...nfaits-goji.php Je plaisante même pas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem_For_Kelly Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Je ne vais pas dire que c'est révolutionnaire mais cette synergie de plantes réputées pour être aphrodisiaques est vraiment pas mal, c'est bien foutu. Et rien ne vous empêche de prendre plus de tribulus à côté si vous en avez, ça ne peut qu'être bénéfique. J'avais d'ailleurs lu l'avis d'un consommateur qui expliquait en avoir parlé à son médecin avant de le prendre. Le doc s'était renseigné sur le produit et lui avait donné son feu vert. Après, l'effet doit dépendre des gens comme pour tout complément alimentaire. Mais vu que tout le monde semble réceptif au tribulus sur sa libido, ce produit ne peut que nous faire du bien. De plus, un pot dure plus d'un mois et ce n'est vraiment pas cher. Je ne me rappelle plus du prix exact à l'époque ou je l'avais acheté par contre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien-methyl Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Maca, goji, guarana et tribulus, t'enchaine 5 caps de chaque je t'assure après niveau libido ça passe pas mal :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURI Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 ça m'a fait changer d'avis moi qui hésitais de prendre du tribulus pour recharger en testo, d'autre qui disent c'est inutile. Bref j'ai bien l'impression que les avis sont départagé. Donc le seul moyen c'est de tester par soit même. Et question libido ben je vais surement en prendre lol, surtout la relance.Oui chez nutrimuscle faut attendre la 8ème semaine, il reste chère mais je pense qu'il sont de bonne qualité. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I investigated Tribulus Terrestis (TT) a decade ago. [street C, Antonio J, Scally MC. The Effects of Tribulus Terrestis on Endocrine Status in Recreational BodyBuilders - A Preliminary Report. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise 2000 Suppl;32(5).]My interest came about by the hypogonadism that I was seeing in BB using this supplement. This effect was in a starked contrast to what was advertised. The results of my small study showed no effect on serum T. These same results were later shown in published studies (below). In summary, I would avoid this product.Neychev VK, Mitev VI. The aphrodisiac herb Tribulus terrestris does not influence the androgen production in young men. J Ethnopharmacol 2005;101(1-3):319-23.OBJECTIVE: The aim of the current study is to investigate the influence of Tribulus terrestris extract on androgen metabolism in young males. DESIGN AND METHODS: Twenty-one healthy young 20-36 years old men with body weight ranging from 60 to 125 kg were randomly separated into three groups-two experimental (each n=7) and a control (placebo) one (n=7). The experimental groups were named TT1 and TT2 and the subjects were assigned to consume 20 and 10 mg/kg body weight per day of Tribulus terrestris extract, respectively, separated into three daily intakes for 4 weeks. Testosterone, androstenedione and luteinizing hormone levels in the serum were measured 24 h before supplementation (clear probe), and at 24, 72, 240, 408 and 576 h from the beginning of the supplementation. RESULTS: There was no significant difference between Tribulus terrestris supplemented groups and controls in the serum testosterone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 15.75+/-1.75 nmol/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 16.32+/-1.57 nmol/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 17.74+/-1.09 nmol/l) (p>0.05)), androstenedione (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 1.927+/-0.126 ng/ml); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 2.026+/-0.256 ng/ml); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 1.952+/-0.236 ng/ml) (p>0.05)) or luteinizing hormone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.662+/-0.274U/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.103+/-0.869U/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 4.170+/-0.406U/l) (p>0.05)) levels. All results were within the normal range. The findings in the current study anticipate that Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins possess neither direct nor indirect androgen-increasing properties. The study will be extended in the clarifying the probable mode of action of Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins.Rogerson S, Riches CJ, Jennings C, Weatherby RP, Meir RA, Marshall-Gradisnik SM. The effect of five weeks of Tribulus terrestris supplementation on muscle strength and body composition during preseason training in elite rugby league players. J Strength Cond Res 2007;21(2):348-53.Tribulus terrestris is an herbal nutritional supplement that is promoted to produce large gains in strength and lean muscle mass in 5-28 days (15, 18). Although some manufacturers claim T. terrestris will not lead to a positive drug test, others have suggested that T. terrestris may increase the urinary testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio, which may place athletes at risk of a positive drug test. The purpose of the study was to determine the effect of T. terrestris on strength, fat free mass, and the urinary T/E ratio during 5 weeks of preseason training in elite rugby league players. Twenty-two Australian elite male rugby league players (mean +/- SD; age = 19.8 +/- 2.9 years; weight = 88.0 +/- 9.5 kg) were match-paired and randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to either a T. terrestris (n = 11) or placebo (n = 11) group. All subjects performed structured heavy resistance training as part of the club's preseason preparations. A T. terrestris extract (450 mg.d(-1)) or placebo capsules were consumed once daily for 5 weeks. Muscular strength, body composition, and the urinary T/E ratio were monitored prior to and after supplementation. After 5 weeks of training, strength and fat free mass increased significantly without any between-group differences. No between-group differences were noted in the urinary T/E ratio. It was concluded that T. terrestris did not produce the large gains in strength or lean muscle mass that many manufacturers claim can be experienced within 5-28 days. Furthermore, T. terrestris did not alter the urinary T/E ratio and would not place an athlete at risk of testing positive based on the World Anti-Doping Agency's urinary T/E ratio limit of 4:1.Saudan C, Baume N, Emery C, Strahm E, Saugy M. Short term impact of Tribulus terrestris intake on doping control analysis of endogenous steroids. Forensic Sci Int 2008;178(1):e7-10.Tribulus terrestris is a nutritional supplement highly debated regarding its physiological and actual effects on the organism. The main claimed effect is an increase of testosterone anabolic and androgenic action through the activation of endogenous testosterone production. Even if this biological pathway is not entirely proven, T. terrestris is regularly used by athletes. Recently, the analysis of two female urine samples by GC/C/IRMS (gas chromatography/combustion/isotope-ratio-mass-spectrometry) conclusively revealed the administration of exogenous testosterone or its precursors, even if the testosterone glucuronide/epitestosterone glucuronide (T/E) ratio and steroid marker concentrations were below the cut-off values defined by World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). To argue against this adverse analytical finding, the athletes recognized having used T. terrestris in their diet. In order to test this hypothesis, two female volunteers ingested 500 mg of T. terrestris, three times a day and for two consecutive days. All spot urines were collected during 48 h after the first intake. The (13)C/(12)C ratio of ketosteroids was determined by GC/C/IRMS, the T/E ratio and DHEA concentrations were measured by GC/MS and LH concentrations by radioimmunoassay. None of these parameters revealed a significant variation or increased above the WADA cut-off limits. Hence, the short-term treatment with T. terrestris showed no impact on the endogenous testosterone metabolism of the two subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Pour ceux qui parlent pas anglais.. Ça fait rien du tout au niveau de la testo ni de la sécrétion urinaire ni de la prise de poids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Et a un effet placebo sur la libibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 non sa a été prouvé !.. sur les lapins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Mdr!! Donc tu es un lapin ) Moi je te dis ça dans 6 jours haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 toi auss regarde au millieu (moi je suis en haut) kevol77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeuveBlack Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Ptdrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevol77 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Mdrrr j'adore la precision -> (moi je suis en haut) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 ça c'est des lapin gays qui manifeste pour le mariage pour touss, et toi tu es partisant donc ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeuveBlack Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Apparemment toi aussi vu que tu es au centre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric67 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 mdr .... vous hête trop fort dans vos explications .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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